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about sandy and all that, but there's no question -- and i'm certainly a global warming worrier and one who -- >> do you believe it's happening? >> well, i don't know how you can't. >> >> just asking, just asking. [applause] >> sandy is, like, okay, fine, we had that. but there's every other piece of evidence is just so overwhelming, you know? you and i were talking at lunch about how you have to look at the numbers and take the numbers as numbers, and these are numbers. whether it's temperatures, sea levels or any of that stuff. so you can't not believe it. but i do think -- [laughter] i don't think hardly anybody believes that we're not having global warming, right? is there anybody? >> a few. there are a few people who still say that. >> but, look, i do think everything -- these are balances, right? we can have a zero tolerance policy on any damage, and we'll have in economy and no jobs, just sort of let everybody run wild, and we'll all be underwater and unable to priest or something -- unable to breathe, and i think right now we're at a pretty good balance in terms of people's awar
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